{"id":66290,"date":"2026-05-07T23:00:00","date_gmt":"2026-05-07T14:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/?p=66290"},"modified":"2026-05-07T15:47:59","modified_gmt":"2026-05-07T06:47:59","slug":"even-from-a-developers-perspective-wuthering-waves-use-of-unreal-engine-is-borderline-perverse-a-ue4-game-decked-out-in-custom-technology","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/column\/even-from-a-developers-perspective-wuthering-waves-use-of-unreal-engine-is-borderline-perverse-a-ue4-game-decked-out-in-custom-technology\/","title":{"rendered":"Even\u00a0from a\u00a0developer\u2019s\u00a0perspective,\u00a0Wuthering Waves\u2019\u00a0use of Unreal Engine is\u00a0borderline perverse.\u00a0A UE4 game decked out in\u00a0custom technology\u00a0"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Whether it be the elaborate character models or the scenic environments, it doesn\u2019t take an expert to tell that Kuro Games\u2019 Wuthering Waves<\/strong> is a beautiful looking game. But the average player probably doesn\u2019t know what makes its level of quality so impressive in a technical sense. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

With that in mind,\u00a0AUTOMATON Japan\u00a0spoke to Masahiko Nakamura,\u00a0head of Indie-us Games and a technical artist well-versed in Unreal Engine,\u00a0to break down the strengths of Wuthering Waves.\u00a0From the perspective of a\u00a0game\u00a0developer, we explore what makes the\u00a0live-service RPG\u00a0so remarkable,\u00a0and the mechanisms behind it. This article focuses\u00a0specifically on\u00a0how Unreal Engine, the\u00a0game\u00a0engine\u00a0Wuthering Waves is built in,\u00a0is actually put to use in the game.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Incidentally, Indie-us Games is currently developing a new action title, UNDEFEATED: Genesis<\/a>, in Unreal Engine. Those interested may want to check it out. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

What it means to build a mobile-compatible game with Unreal Engine<\/strong> <\/h2>\n\n\n\n
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\u2014Since you lead a studio specializing in Unreal Engine (hereafter UE), I’d like to take a look at Wuthering Waves\u2019 technology from your perspective. To get us started, please introduce yourself.<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Masahiko Nakamura (hereafter Nakamura):<\/strong> 
I\u2019m Masahiko Nakamura, head of Indie-us Games. Thanks for having me. I wasn\u2019t involved in the development of Wuthering Waves, so what I\u2019ll be sharing here is speculation about how the developers may have pulled off certain things, based on my experience with UE. So please take it with a grain of salt (laughs). <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2014Understood! You come from a technical artist’s background, so I take it you have a grasp of both graphics and systems?<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nakamura:<\/strong> 
Yes. I\u2019m a technical artist, and I handle a wide range of areas, including core game systems. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2014I notice you often post on social media about the high quality of Chinese-developed games. What\u2019s your impression of Wuthering Waves in that respect?<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nakamura:<\/strong> 
Speaking personally, I see it as a frontrunner among anime-style games built in UE, both as a mobile game and as a PC game. It uses a number of very high-end graphical techniques and is cutting edge while still maintaining compatibility as a mobile title, which is amazing. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2014What makes developing mobile-compatible games in UE challenging? I notice there’s a common perception that Unity is better suited for mobile.<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nakamura:<\/strong> 
Fundamentally, it\u2019s not really true that Unity is inherently superior to UE for mobile development. Whether it\u2019s graphics or in-game mechanics, Unity doesn\u2019t necessarily have an advantage. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

So why then, is Unity more commonly used and generally seen as a stronger engine for mobile? Historically, many Unity titles have targeted mobile platforms, and as a result, a community of developers focusing on mobile development grew around it. There\u2019s now a huge amount of information, support resources, and third-party frameworks and libraries available for mobile development in Unity. Given these circumstances, it\u2019s only natural that Unity has emerged as the popular choice when making mobile games. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

UE also has strong technical advantages, but it does lag behind in terms of available information and supporting libraries. That relative lack of resources likely contributes to the perception that UE isn\u2019t quite as suited for mobile development. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Rich visuals created by bringing UE5 tech into UE4<\/strong> <\/h2>\n\n\n\n
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\u2014What\u2019s your impression of Wuthering Waves\u2019 graphics?<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nakamura:<\/strong> 
Firstly, I think most players can feel that the game successfully combines anime-style characters with beautiful background graphics \u2013 the environments look stunning, and the character designs feel lavishly detailed. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

At the same time, it\u2019s not just a simple anime style. If you look at recently added characters, the range of expression is incredibly diverse, with a lot of care and detail packed into each one.  <\/s>We\u2019re seeing more and more presentation that goes a step beyond what you\u2019d call a traditional anime style. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

As for the environments, the game incorporates many techniques from PC gaming, including the use of Lumen, a UE5 technology. However, since Wuthering Waves<\/em> runs on UE4, they\u2019ve ported those features from UE5 into UE4 and are using them as core technology. Thanks to these efforts, even though it\u2019s technically a UE4 game, it looks as sophisticated as something from the UE5 generation. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

I think the way they\u2019ve blended anime-style characters into these richly detailed, realistic environments is particularly impressive. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2014What stood out most to you from a technical standpoint?<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nakamura:<\/strong>\u00a0
Their proactive efforts\u00a0to integrate\u00a0new technologies\u00a0into UE4. Wuthering Waves currently isn\u2019t in a position to migrate to UE5,\u00a0likely for the same reasons as the Final Fantasy VII Remake series\u00a0(related article<\/a>).\u00a0However, in their determination to achieve rich graphics within UE4, the technology\u00a0they\u2019ve\u00a0developed to bring over UE5 features is\u00a0truly impressive.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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\u2014Why can\u2019t they simply transition from UE4 to UE5?<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nakamura:<\/strong> 
Keepn in mind that this is just speculation, but when development of Wuthering Waves began, UE4 was still the dominant engine. It wasn\u2019t until around the time they released Punishing: Gray Raven (built in Unity), which launched before Wuthering Waves, that I suspect they might have started researching UE. I believe they spent a lot of time studying it and became very familiar with UE4. Then, as development work on Wuthering Waves continued, UE4 would have been heavily customized. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Even with all those customizations, it would probably be possible to move to UE5 in theory. However, UE5 is now at version 5.7, while Wuthering Waves uses UE4.26. You might think you can just jump straight from 4.26 to 5.7, but that\u2019s extremely difficult. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2014Why is that?<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nakamura:<\/strong> 
Version upgrades have to be executed in stages. For example, from 4.26 to 4.27, then 5.0, 5.1, 5.2. With some luck, it might be possible to skip 5.4, but basically, versions are updated one at a time, moving on to 5.5, 5.6, and so on. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

If you don\u2019t, the features you\u2019ve built will start breaking one after another. Considering the risks, jumping multiple versions at once is essentially impossible. This is the main reason why, even in titles I\u2019ve worked on in the past, we could only skip one major update at most. So, given the scale of Wuthering Waves right now, if they were to update one version at a time, there\u2019s a possibility the process wouldn\u2019t be finished even after a full year. That\u2019s just my approximation, though. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Not only that, but when you consider spending over a year on updates, and then having to handle all the custom modifications made internally without any support\u2026 my view is that it simply wouldn\u2019t be worth the cost. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2014I suppose that\u2019s especially the case for a live-service game, where new content is continuously being made.<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nakamura:<\/strong> 
Exactly. In such cases, I think most developers choose not to maintain compatibility, but rather draw the line at a certain point and start over as a completely separate project. Back in the day, Blade & Soul also updated to the next generation UE, but I recall that they had to rebuild a significant portion of the game. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2014From a player\u2019s perspective, engine updates don\u2019t seem that impactful, but for developers it sounds extremely risky.<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nakamura:<\/strong> 
UE4 and UE5 may be part of the same UE family, but they\u2019re practically treated like different engines, so you can\u2019t just \u201cpush an upgrade button.\u201d It takes time, and for live-service titles, stability is critical, which complicates things further. You really need the same level of commitment as if you were launching an entirely new title. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Decked out UE4 customization means limited support from Epic<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2014What UE5 features have been incorporated into Wuthering Waves, as far as you can tell?<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nakamura:<\/strong> 
The game appears to implement a custom ray tracing system based on Lumen\u2019s Hardware Ray Tracing, which doesn\u2019t exist in standard UE4. This ray tracing system also includes a custom implementation of character toon\/cel shading, which isn\u2019t found in Lumen, and incorporates proprietary processing to ensure that even with high-fidelity lighting, the anime-style characters still appear soft and natural. Achieving all of this while keeping performance optimized is technically very challenging. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2014And since these are custom modifications, the developers can\u2019t rely on Epic Games for support?<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nakamura:<\/strong> 
Basically, no. To begin with, there\u2019s very limited support for UE4 itself now, and once you go that far, completely customizing it into something unique, you\u2019re effectively on your own. If something goes wrong, you can\u2019t just say \u201cthis is a UE issue\u201d (laughs). <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2014So everything becomes your responsibility.<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nakamura:<\/strong> 
For developers, not being able to consult Epic when something seems off with the engine is actually a big deal. If we can\u2019t rely on them, we end up having to handle all the support ourselves, and at that point, the cost is almost the same as building a game in a proprietary engine. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u2014Does this also complicate optimization for mobile devices, given Wuthering Waves\u2019 large-scale environments and sophisticated graphics?<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nakamura:<\/strong> 
If it were just a matter of optimization, it would be possible with general knowledge. But in Wuthering Waves\u2019 case, they also have to handle platform-specific support entirely on their own. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

It\u2019s one thing if you\u2019re only targeting PC, but the game also runs on PS5 and mobile. Especially for consoles, expertise is scarce, so developers often need external support. However, if they can\u2019t rely on Epic, they\u2019re likely handling that internally as well, which suggests they have highly experienced, deeply knowledgeable staff. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"\"<\/figure>\n\n\n\n

\u2014That was very insightful. Thank you for your time.<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Wuthering Waves<\/a> is available as a free-to-play title on iOS, Android, PS5, and PC (Windows\/Steam\/Epic Games Store\/Mac App Store).  <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Indie-us Games is currently developing UNDEFEATED: Genesis<\/a> in Unreal Engine. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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