{"id":56434,"date":"2026-02-04T23:00:00","date_gmt":"2026-02-04T14:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/?p=56434"},"modified":"2026-02-04T18:15:56","modified_gmt":"2026-02-04T09:15:56","slug":"ive-never-made-a-single-magical-girl-anime-sailor-moon-r-and-revolutionary-girl-utena-director-says-many-people-mistake-the-genre-of-his-work","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/news\/ive-never-made-a-single-magical-girl-anime-sailor-moon-r-and-revolutionary-girl-utena-director-says-many-people-mistake-the-genre-of-his-work\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;I&#8217;ve never made a single magical girl anime.&#8221; Sailor Moon R and Revolutionary Girl Utena director says many people mistake the genre of his work"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>One of anime director Kunihiko Ikuhara\u2019s most recent projects that many fans may have missed is <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@%E9%81%8B%E5%91%BD%E3%81%AE%E3%82%B7%E3%83%8D%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%83%8A%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF\" type=\"link\" id=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@%E9%81%8B%E5%91%BD%E3%81%AE%E3%82%B7%E3%83%8D%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B9%E3%83%8A%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Ikuni to Unmei no Cinema Snack <\/a><\/strong>(T<em>he Cinema Snack-Bar of Destiny With Ikuni<\/em>), a cosmic cinephile podcast in which three aliens gather to talk about film, exploring the themes and symbolism behind both mainstream and more niche corners of cinema culture and history.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In one of the earlier episodes of the podcast published last year, the \u201cthree aliens\u201d analyzed the themes of Suspiria (1977) through the lens of Japanese witch and magical girl tropes. And when talking about magical girls in a broader sense, Ikuhara\u2019s works like Sailor Moon and Revolutionary Girl Utena are often brought up as some of the more iconic examples. However, in the podcast, the director himself stated that he doesn\u2019t consider any of the anime he\u2019s worked on to be in the magical girl genre \u2013 not even Sailor Moon.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"\u3010\u30b5\u30b9\u30da\u30ea\u30a2\u3011\u9b54\u5973\u6620\u753b\u3092\u5fb9\u5e95\u89e3\u8aac\uff01\u30bb\u30fc\u30e9\u30fc\u30e0\u30fc\u30f3\u306f\u9b54\u6cd5\u5c11\u5973\u3067\u306f\u3042\u308a\u307e\u305b\u3093\u3010\u6620\u753b\u89e3\u8aac\u3011\u3010\u5207\u308a\u629c\u304d\u7248#1\u3011\" width=\"1160\" height=\"653\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/_0yWjKlpvE8?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>But how do they define the \u201cmagical girl\u201d trope? To give a brief rundown, Ikuhara traces the roots of magical girls to the American fantasy sitcom Bewitched, which turns the \u201cdark\u201d concept of magic into a more light-hearted slice of life story. An attempt to make a similar story for a younger demographic resulted in Sally the Witch, which is considered the starting point of the \u201cmajokko\u201d (little witch) trope. From there, there have been many different variations on witches and magical girls throughout the past 5 decades.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In comparison to Madoka Magica, which is practically synonymous with the word \u201cmagical girl\u201d in Japan, Ikuhara defines the various approaches on the genre which were derived from Sally as \u201clight, casual and fun works aimed at girls.\u201d However, he also acknowledges that the original concept of magic\/witches which the genre is based on is inherently dark (so, as the co-host Gami-chan suggests, Madoka could be considered a \u201creturn\u201d to the genre\u2019s roots). \u201cBut what\u2019s so great about the magical girl genre is that in it, girls can use otherworldly powers and take the spotlight in a similar vein to Superman,\u201d Ikuhara says.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s about young girls being able to use mysterious powers, and the almighty feeling of possessing powers which even adults don\u2019t have. Nowadays, there\u2019s way more diversity in what kind of life path a girl can take on once she grows up, but in the \u201860s and \u201870s, when Sally the Witch and the magical girl genre started, I don\u2019t think that was entirely the case. So from that point of view\u2013 the idea that they could use magic was thrilling to young girls back in the day.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignfull size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"564\" height=\"348\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 564px) 100vw, 564px\" src=\"https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/20260204-564340001.jpg\" alt=\"Sally the Witch\" class=\"wp-image-56437\" srcset=\"https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/20260204-564340001.jpg 564w, https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/20260204-564340001-380x234.jpg 380w\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Sally the Witch<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>However, when asked about the Sailor Moon series specifically, Ikuhara explained that he doesn\u2019t consider it to be in the magical girl genre, and that it\u2019s, in his opinion, closer to the \u201chenshin hero\u201d genre (The Kamen Rider and Super Sentai series, for example, fall under this category). \u201cI often get called a director that\u2019s good at making magical girl anime \u2013 but listen, I actually haven\u2019t worked on a single one. It\u2019s a pretty rough generalization,\u201d Ikuhara says.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignfull size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"627\" height=\"325\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 627px) 100vw, 627px\" src=\"https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/20260204-564340002.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-56438\" srcset=\"https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/20260204-564340002.jpg 627w, https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/20260204-564340002-380x197.jpg 380w\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Revolutionary Girl Utena<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Furthermore, Revolutionary Girl Utena is often cited as a subversion or a more dark take that plays around with the genre\u2019s tropes, however, according to Ikuhara, even though Utena does feature a \u201cmagic wielding\u201d character, it\u2019s not really a magical girl anime, per se. \u201cThe theme of witches appears in Utena as well, so I assume that\u2019s why they often call it [a magical girl anime]. Though I don\u2019t really think Utena is a magical girl in particular,\u201d he explains.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Most of Ikuhara\u2019s original works, including Mawaru Penguindrum and Yuri Kuma Arashi, feature iconic female characters, transformation scenes, and have a unique surreal\/fantasy vibe to them \u2013 which is all reminiscent of magical girl tropes. However, given the director\u2019s explanation, none of them are technically intended to be interpreted as magical girl anime. &nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Related articles:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/news\/20230823-21008\/\" type=\"link\" id=\"https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/news\/20230823-21008\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Magical girl anime event in Japan fails to include its only male protagonist in program, leaving a little boy heartbroken<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/news\/magical-girl-witch-trials-developer-preparing-for-north-american-expansion-as-the-overwhelmingly-positive-title-sells-over-200000-copies-on-steam\/\" type=\"link\" id=\"https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/news\/magical-girl-witch-trials-developer-preparing-for-north-american-expansion-as-the-overwhelmingly-positive-title-sells-over-200000-copies-on-steam\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Magical Girl Witch Trials developer preparing for North American expansion as the \u201cOverwhelmingly Positive\u201d title sells over 200,000 copies on Steam<br><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sailor Moon R and Utena director Kunihiko Ikuhara talks about how people often mistake him for being a &#8220;magical girl director.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":79,"featured_media":56436,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_gspb_post_css":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[17],"class_list":["post-56434","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news","tag-japan-related-news"],"blocksy_meta":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>&quot;I&#039;ve never made a single magical girl anime.&quot; 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