{"id":34505,"date":"2024-07-23T17:10:47","date_gmt":"2024-07-23T08:10:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/?p=34505"},"modified":"2024-07-23T17:10:48","modified_gmt":"2024-07-23T08:10:48","slug":"square-chrono-trigger-almost-had-fighting-game-according-to-veteran-dev-seiichi-ishii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/news\/square-chrono-trigger-almost-had-fighting-game-according-to-veteran-dev-seiichi-ishii\/","title":{"rendered":"Square\u2019s Chrono Trigger almost had a fighting game, according to veteran dev Seiichi Ishii"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>In a recently published interview with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.4gamer.net\/games\/999\/G999905\/20240705060\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">4Gamer<\/a>, veteran fighting game developer and Tekken creator Seiichi Ishii gave some interesting insights into the games he developed under Square (now Square Enix) during the PS1 and PS2 eras. Among the behind-the-scenes tidbits revealed in the interview, Ishii explained that PS1 fighting game<strong> <\/strong><strong>Tobal No. 1<\/strong> was originally set to have a completely different roster of playable characters, belonging to the much-loved Square RPG Chrono Trigger.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"900\" height=\"472\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" src=\"http:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/20240723-34505-header.jpg\" alt=\"Chrono Trigger airship Steam version\" class=\"wp-image-34509\" srcset=\"https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/20240723-34505-header.jpg 900w, https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/20240723-34505-header-380x199.jpg 380w, https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/20240723-34505-header-768x403.jpg 768w\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"900\" height=\"506\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" src=\"http:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/20240723-34505-001.jpg\" alt=\"Chrono Trigger\" class=\"wp-image-34513\" srcset=\"https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/20240723-34505-001.jpg 900w, https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/20240723-34505-001-380x214.jpg 380w, https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/20240723-34505-001-768x432.jpg 768w\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Chrono Trigger (<a href=\"https:\/\/store.steampowered.com\/app\/613830\/CHRONO_TRIGGER\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Steam version<\/a>).<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Seiichi Ishii had a huge impact on the development of the 3D fighting game genre in the early 1990s. After working as a designer on Virtua Racer and Virtua Fighter at Sega, he switched to Namco, becoming the director of Tekken 1 and Tekken 2 on the PlayStation 1. Catching the eye of Hironobu Sakaguchi, Square\u2019s president at the time, he then established the game development studio Dream Factory as a subsidiary of Square in November 1995.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The first game that Dream Factory made was the 3D fighter Tobal No. 1 for the PS1. Praised for its unique action RPG-style quest mode and distinctive visual style, Tobal No.1 became a big hit in Japan upon its release in 1996. Its sales were probably also helped by the fact that it came with a demo of the hotly anticipated Final Fantasy 7. It was less successful in the USA and Europe at the time, but has since become a cult classic.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"900\" height=\"595\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" src=\"http:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/20240723-34505-003.jpg\" alt=\"Tobal No 1 PlayStation 1 3D fighting game with Akira Toriyama's character designs\" class=\"wp-image-34511\" srcset=\"https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/20240723-34505-003.jpg 900w, https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/20240723-34505-003-380x251.jpg 380w, https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/20240723-34505-003-768x508.jpg 768w\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Like SoulCalibur, Tobal No. 1 also had some stages where you could fall of the edge for a &#8220;Ring Out&#8221; (Tobal No. 1 images from <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/4rQIT2Rq0Is?si=eArsfdkrpqJFno-6\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Old Shinji Plays on YouTube<\/a>)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Ishii had a request when making Tobal No. 1, which was that he wanted to work with <a href=\"https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/news\/akira-toriyamas-impact-on-japanese-manga-is-captured-entirely-in-this-single-image\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">the late Dragon Ball Z manga artist Akira Toriyama<\/a>. <a href=\"http:\/\/passed%20away%20in%20march%20this%20year.%29\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><\/a>\u201cThis was around the time that Trunks appeared in Dragon Ball Z and I wanted to have a character like that in the game,\u201d Ishii explains.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Square had released its 2D RPG Chrono Trigger on the SNES in March 1995 to critical acclaim. The game\u2019s characters had been designed by Toriyama. \u201cSo, at first, we were going to do a fighting game using characters from Chrono Trigger. But as we were making the prototype, Toriyama came along and said, \u201cI\u2019ll draw some new characters.\u201d&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"900\" height=\"590\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px\" src=\"http:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/20240723-34505-004.jpg\" alt=\"Tobal 1 Epon vs Chuji Wu\" class=\"wp-image-34510\" srcset=\"https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/20240723-34505-004.jpg 900w, https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/20240723-34505-004-380x249.jpg 380w, https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/20240723-34505-004-768x503.jpg 768w\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Tobal ended up with a full cast of original characters designed by Akira Toriyama, with fighter Chuji Wu having a bit of a Trunks vibe (as shown in the still from Tobal&#8217;s opening FMV at the top of this article). Although no Square characters from other franchises would appear in Tobal No. 1, later games by Ishii\u2019s Dream Factory would feature some interesting unlockable cameos. The Japan exclusive sequel Tobal 2 got a Final Fantasy Chocobo. But 1998\u2019s wrestling inspired fighter Ehrgeiz: God Bless the Ring would go further by featuring Final Fantasy 7\u2019s Cloud, Sephiroth, Tifa, Vincent, Yuffie and Zack as playable characters.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Although the Chrono Trigger fighting game never happened, it would have been fun to duke it out as Crono, Marle or even Frog. The characters\u2019 varied weapons could have given the game a SoulCalibur feel.&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A desire to work with Akira Toriyama\u2019s character designs almost led the Tekken creator to make a Chrono Trigger 3D beat\u2019em up&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":61,"featured_media":34512,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_gspb_post_css":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[17,82],"class_list":["post-34505","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news","tag-japan-related-news","tag-retro-games"],"blocksy_meta":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Square\u2019s Chrono Trigger almost had a fighting game, according to veteran dev Seiichi Ishii - AUTOMATON WEST<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"A desire to use Akira Toriyama\u2019s character designs almost led the Tekken creator to make a Chrono Trigger 3D beat\u2019em up, which became Tobal 1\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/automaton-media.com\/en\/news\/square-chrono-trigger-almost-had-fighting-game-according-to-veteran-dev-seiichi-ishii\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Square\u2019s Chrono Trigger almost had a fighting game, according to veteran dev Seiichi Ishii - 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